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	<title>Comments on: The Immunity of the ICC Lawyers and Staff Detained in Libya</title>
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		<title>By: Federal Criminal Defense Attorney</title>
		<link>http://www.ejiltalk.org/the-immunity-of-the-icc-lawyers-and-staff-detained-in-libya/comment-page-1/#comment-26288</link>
		<dc:creator>Federal Criminal Defense Attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The regulations that define OPCD seem to imply that OPCD is a part of the registry. At least for admnistrative reasons, if nothing else. So, the OPCD is a part of the registry. The ICC seems to back that up. I think that&#039;s a valid, and important, point. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stobbslaw.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Federal Criminal Defense Attorney&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The regulations that define OPCD seem to imply that OPCD is a part of the registry. At least for admnistrative reasons, if nothing else. So, the OPCD is a part of the registry. The ICC seems to back that up. I think that&#8217;s a valid, and important, point. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.stobbslaw.com"  rel="nofollow">Federal Criminal Defense Attorney</a></p>
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		<title>By: Separating Fact from Fiction: Melinda Taylor and the ICC Staff&#8217;s Detention in Libya &#124; Justice in Conflict</title>
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		<dc:creator>Separating Fact from Fiction: Melinda Taylor and the ICC Staff&#8217;s Detention in Libya &#124; Justice in Conflict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] immunity. This has been argued by international criminal law luminaries Kevin Jon Heller and Dapo Akande. What is particularly interesting is that while Heller and Akande don&#8217;t take the same route [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] immunity. This has been argued by international criminal law luminaries Kevin Jon Heller and Dapo Akande. What is particularly interesting is that while Heller and Akande don&#8217;t take the same route [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Jalloh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Jalloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 06:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dapo:

Thanks for taking up this important immunity issue regarding Melinda Taylor and the rest of the detained ICC staff in Libya. 

I had also briefly reflected on this issue and reached a similar conclusion (see here: http://iclferment.blogspot.com/2012/06/melinda-taylor-is-entitled-to-immunity.html). Overall, I agree that the strongest argument in favor of immunity for the ICC staff rests on Article 48 of the Rome Statute, which necessarily applies to Libya, in line with the Court&#039;s holding on the point, Libya&#039;s acceptance that the Statute governs, and your own argument that the effect of Chapter VII Resolution 1970 (2011) is to impose the Statute on the referred State.

Although I had essentially suggested the same on the applicability of the Agreement on Privileges and Immunities, I remain dissatisfied with the position that the entire instrument constitutes a mere fleshing out of the obligations contained in Art. 48 since that would then seem to obviate the need for a subsequent state signature, ratification or accession to that secondary agreement. 

I know this was only parenthetical to your main argument, but I am even less certain that the proposition that all states parties may even be bound by the privileges agreement, absent their consent to it. In other words, if that was the intention of states, why would they not say that? Why did they introduce the second step?

Best,

Charles



 

That said, I tend to disagree that the]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dapo:</p>
<p>Thanks for taking up this important immunity issue regarding Melinda Taylor and the rest of the detained ICC staff in Libya. </p>
<p>I had also briefly reflected on this issue and reached a similar conclusion (see here: <a target="_blank" href="http://iclferment.blogspot.com/2012/06/melinda-taylor-is-entitled-to-immunity.html"  rel="nofollow">http://iclferment.blogspot.com/2012/06/melinda-taylor-is-entitled-to-immunity.html</a>). Overall, I agree that the strongest argument in favor of immunity for the ICC staff rests on Article 48 of the Rome Statute, which necessarily applies to Libya, in line with the Court&#8217;s holding on the point, Libya&#8217;s acceptance that the Statute governs, and your own argument that the effect of Chapter VII Resolution 1970 (2011) is to impose the Statute on the referred State.</p>
<p>Although I had essentially suggested the same on the applicability of the Agreement on Privileges and Immunities, I remain dissatisfied with the position that the entire instrument constitutes a mere fleshing out of the obligations contained in Art. 48 since that would then seem to obviate the need for a subsequent state signature, ratification or accession to that secondary agreement. </p>
<p>I know this was only parenthetical to your main argument, but I am even less certain that the proposition that all states parties may even be bound by the privileges agreement, absent their consent to it. In other words, if that was the intention of states, why would they not say that? Why did they introduce the second step?</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Charles</p>
<p>That said, I tend to disagree that the</p>
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		<title>By: Did the ICC just issue an Apology to Libya? &#124; Justice in Conflict</title>
		<link>http://www.ejiltalk.org/the-immunity-of-the-icc-lawyers-and-staff-detained-in-libya/comment-page-1/#comment-20164</link>
		<dc:creator>Did the ICC just issue an Apology to Libya? &#124; Justice in Conflict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] seemed odd to many that the Court should apologize when it is rather clear (see here and here) that the ICC staff enjoy diplomatic immunity and, from the very get-go, there was no [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Dapo Akande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dapo Akande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kevin,

I think that when the regulation setting up OPCD says that OPCD is within the Registry for admnistrative purposes it is saying that OPCD is formally part of the registry. Even the ICC&#039;s website has it as under the Registry. However, the regulation says it is to be independent meaning that it cannot be controlled by the Registrar. The fact that OPCD is part of the Registry brings it within Art. 48(3). The reason OPCD is part of the Registry is that Art. 34 of the Statute has a closed list of organs of the Court. So, for the OPCD to be an organ of the Court it has to fall under one of the organs listed in Art. 34  and the Registry was the natural choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kevin,</p>
<p>I think that when the regulation setting up OPCD says that OPCD is within the Registry for admnistrative purposes it is saying that OPCD is formally part of the registry. Even the ICC&#8217;s website has it as under the Registry. However, the regulation says it is to be independent meaning that it cannot be controlled by the Registrar. The fact that OPCD is part of the Registry brings it within Art. 48(3). The reason OPCD is part of the Registry is that Art. 34 of the Statute has a closed list of organs of the Court. So, for the OPCD to be an organ of the Court it has to fall under one of the organs listed in Art. 34  and the Registry was the natural choice.</p>
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		<title>By: The Source of the ICC&#8217;s Privileges and Immunities in Libya: Experts on Missions Immunity, Customary Immunity, or Immunity by Security Council Resolution? &#124; The View From LL2</title>
		<link>http://www.ejiltalk.org/the-immunity-of-the-icc-lawyers-and-staff-detained-in-libya/comment-page-1/#comment-19506</link>
		<dc:creator>The Source of the ICC&#8217;s Privileges and Immunities in Libya: Experts on Missions Immunity, Customary Immunity, or Immunity by Security Council Resolution? &#124; The View From LL2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Over at EJIL Talk, Dapo Akande makes the argument that the treaty obligations contained in the Rome Statute can also [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Jon Heller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Jon Heller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dapo,

Great post.  But is it really the case that OPCD personnel are included in 48(3)?  I think the natural reading of the operative language -- &quot;The OPCD shall fall within the remit of the Registry solely for administrative purposes and otherwise shall function as a wholly independent office&quot; -- means that OPCD personnel are not &quot;staff&quot; of the Registry but staff of the OPCD.  If the OPCD personnel were Registry staff, presumably the Registry would have far more control over aspects of their work than is consistent with the OPCD being a &quot;wholly independent office.&quot;  I think the 48(4) argument is much stronger -- especially in light of the Gotovina decision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dapo,</p>
<p>Great post.  But is it really the case that OPCD personnel are included in 48(3)?  I think the natural reading of the operative language &#8212; &#8220;The OPCD shall fall within the remit of the Registry solely for administrative purposes and otherwise shall function as a wholly independent office&#8221; &#8212; means that OPCD personnel are not &#8220;staff&#8221; of the Registry but staff of the OPCD.  If the OPCD personnel were Registry staff, presumably the Registry would have far more control over aspects of their work than is consistent with the OPCD being a &#8220;wholly independent office.&#8221;  I think the 48(4) argument is much stronger &#8212; especially in light of the Gotovina decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Updates on Melinda Taylor, Helene Assaf and ICC Staff Detained in Libya &#124; Justice in Conflict</title>
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		<dc:creator>Updates on Melinda Taylor, Helene Assaf and ICC Staff Detained in Libya &#124; Justice in Conflict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Akande, writing at the phenomenal blog, EJIL:Talk!, goes through the legal arguments regarding whether or not Taylor and the ICC staff [...]]]></description>
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